{"id":2097,"date":"2017-12-03T08:00:38","date_gmt":"2017-12-03T15:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/?p=2097"},"modified":"2017-12-02T22:43:21","modified_gmt":"2017-12-03T05:43:21","slug":"in-memory-of-john-fleck-larry-tamblyn-talks-about-the-standells","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/index.php\/2017\/12\/03\/in-memory-of-john-fleck-larry-tamblyn-talks-about-the-standells\/","title":{"rendered":"In Memory of John Fleck: Larry Tamblyn Talks About The Standells"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-2103 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Standells-on-stage-1024x703.jpg\" alt=\"The Standells in Concert at Tiki Oasis 2014\" width=\"640\" height=\"439\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Note: I&#8217;m republishing this interview I did in 2014 with Larry Tamblyn, one of the original founders of the <strong>Standells<\/strong>. John Fleck, one of the key members of the Standells for many years, has died of AML Leukemia this past October 18. You can read the Standell&#8217;s announcement of it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/larry.tamblyn\/posts\/10209845614445232\">here<\/a>. It is in tribute to him that I share this with you.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.standells-official.com\">Tiki Oasis<\/a>, held in San Diego earlier this month, featured lots of great entertainment along with great rum, parties and seminars. The capper to the event was the performance of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tikioasis.com\">the Standells<\/a>, one of the most iconic of the 1960&#8217;s groups. Their influence has been felt by many in the music industry, earning them acclaim as a key influence on the garage and punk band genres. Not just playing concerts but still actively recording new songs, the Standells are still thrilling crowds with their music. <em>Dirty Water<\/em>, their hit from the &#8217;60s, is just as well-known today as when it was a new hit song.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Indeed, over the years, groups as varied as the Dave Matthews Band, Aerosmith, Bruce Springsteen and U2 have covered some of the Standell\u2019s songs. <em>Dirty Water<\/em>\u00a0is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as one of 500 Songs that Shaped Rock. Their influence on many of the seminal punk groups cannot be measured. Songs like <em>Riot on Sunset Strip<\/em>\u00a0set the stage for hard-hitting film music. However, along with new fans picking up their new album <em>BUMP<\/em>\u00a0and enjoying the Standells on their recent tour, the Standells, with original founder Larry Tamblyn and original bassist John Fleck are not resting on their laurels but instead writing and producing some really good new songs. At the Tiki Oasis, these guys proved they can still rock the crowd.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I had a chance to sit down with Larry Tamblyn before the Standell&#8217;s performance and talk about music, the Standells, <em>Dirty Water<\/em> and life on the road.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Larry, how&#8217;s it feel to still be touring?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-2100\" src=\"https:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Larry-Tamblyn-singing-Tiki-Oasis-300x210.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"210\" \/>Well, it\u2019s bittersweet, in that audiences still want to see us and there are people out there, young and old\u2014-we have teenagers that we play for and \u2018oldies like us\u2019 that come to see our concerts, so it\u2019s a good mix. It\u2019s a little bit harder\u2014-no, it\u2019s a lot harder than it used to be because we had a lot more energy back then. With me, we just got back in May. We had an eighteen city tour across the nation in one month and it was absolutely exhausting. It\u2019s not like it used to be in a lot of ways and then in a lot of ways it is. You\u2019re up there playing and you see the same kind of enthusiasm and the same kind of responses that we used to get back in the \u201860s.<\/p>\n<p>One story\u2014\u2014we were in Denver and we had just gotten done with the gig and we were signing autographs. We always do that, so I was signing an autograph on the jacket of this twenty-something year old girl. A very nice person, very shy. And so she reached over, as if to hug me and just grabbed me and threw the biggest kiss on me that I\u2019ve ever had in my life and I was floored! Here\u2019 I\u2019m old enough to be her grandfather! I was really honored to have this young woman, not that I would have taken it any further\u2014-I\u2019m happily married, would never think of that, but just to have a young girl think of me in those terms, that\u2019s really neat.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What helps keep the music fresh to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We rehearse a lot and we just don\u2019t live off of our past. We actually have a new album out that we recorded ourselves last year. We built our own garage studio, because that\u2019s where you get your creativity. It is in a little junky place where you have no distractions, no polished floor and perfect acoustics; and somehow it pumps your creativity, so that\u2019s exactly what we did. It\u2019s probably one of the best albums that we\u2019ve ever done. So that keeps it new, and doing our new songs also helps to keep it new. We do them in concert along with the old songs and we\u2019ve had everybody, even old fans that have been with us since the beginning, say \u2019I like that new stuff, it\u2019s as good if not better than the old stuff\u2019. I couldn\u2019t believe that, hearing it from people. You expect, \u2018why don\u2019t you do this and why don\u2019t you do that\u2019 and instead they say, \u2018I like this new song. \u2018<em>It\u2019s All About the Money<\/em>, that is a great song\u2019. We just came back from Italy, we did a big concert over there and they said the same thing over there.\u00a0 So we know we\u2019re hitting the right spots in our concerts so that helps it to be new. But the other thing in doing the old songs, it\u2019s kind of magic.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So what was the story behind <em>Dirty Water<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2104\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2104\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2104\" src=\"https:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/The_Standells-300x204.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"204\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2104\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Standells in a promo image for Dirty Water<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Dirty Water<\/em>\u00a0was recorded in a garage, so we really are a garage rock group, perhaps the first as many say, or \u2018The Godfathers of Garage Punk\u2019. Or Punk. I don\u2019t know, originally we were the \u2018Godfathers of Punk\u2019\u00a0 and then it became \u2018Garage\u201d.\u00a0 The engineer was a genius, Armin Steiner. He had more hits out of that studio\u2026\u2026\u2026.it was done in three tracks. But what we did, Ed Cobb had this song, he presented it to us and we said, \u2018we\u2019ll do it if you allow us to arrange it the way we want\u2019 and he did. We came up with the guitar lick, with a lot of the lyrics and a different kind of chord structure. Instead of a straight seventh, it was an augmented seventh. We did a lot of things that made it what it was. When the record came out, we spent two days, because we also recorded \u2018Rari&#8217; there, we recorded the songs and forgot completely about them. We never imagined that <em>Dirty Water<\/em> would become the hit that it became.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So how did a band from Los Angeles create a song that is so popular and so identified with Boston?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s part of the New England culture now. They play <em>Dirty Water<\/em>\u00a0on the \u201cDuck\u2019 tours, on the boats and everyplace you go they play <em>Dirty Water<\/em>. It\u2019s more than the Boston Red Sox now. It started off with the Boston Bruins, I think they were the first ones to use it. And the music, as I understand it, the music director left them and went to Boston [Red Sox] and he got to come up with all the music that they use. He was looking for the right opportunity to play <em>Dirty Water<\/em> because he loved it. It wasn\u2019t until, Mo Vaughan, with the bases loaded, hit a grand slam, it was like a walk-off grand slam. How much better can you get than that? They played <em>Dirty Water<\/em> and the crowd went nuts. it\u2019s been a fan favorite ever since. They\u2019ve tried to change it, they\u2019ve tried everything since, but the fans just love <em>Dirty Water<\/em>. \u2018<em>They love that Dirty Water<\/em>\u2019, even though it makes fun of the way life was back then, it made fun of the wretched conditions of the Charles River, which was at one time one of the most polluted rivers in the nation. Now it\u2019s one of the cleanest. It made fun of the nightlife, uh the lowlife around the river and yet it\u2019s a favorite of the people of Boston and elsewhere. You can\u2019t go anyplace without hearing that song any more, so it\u2019s an iconic song and we\u2019re glad to be part of it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are some favorites of your new songs?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-2099\" src=\"https:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Larry-Tamblyn-portrait-2-246x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"246\" height=\"300\" \/>I think that <em>It\u2019s All About the Money<\/em>, that was written by John Fleck and me. He\u2019s the other original member.\u00a0 We wanted to get a couple of songs, hard-hitting songs like the Standells used to sing that\u2019s really talking about society and the way it is. In this case, we were going after the wealthiest 1%. Great target! So that\u2019s what the song is about. It\u2019s talking about the kids marching in the street again like they are doing with the \u2018Occupy\u2019 groups and that\u2019s what it\u2019s all about. We have another song, <em>Mr. One Percent<\/em>\u00a0and that\u2019s another one that\u2019s really fun to do. People love it\u2014\u2014it\u2019s more of a comedic take on that.<\/p>\n<p>We also, I think as far as favorite songs, one of the songs we did on the album is <em>7 and 7<\/em> <em>is<\/em>. Of course, John, our bass player, used to play a lot with John Echols in \u2018Love\u2019 together and John said, \u2018Why don\u2019t we do this song in the album?\u2019. He played it for me and that is a GREAT song. It never really got, we felt, really got what it deserved. It was never Top Ten, in fact I don\u2019t think it ever think it was Top 40. any ways, we decided to do that and it\u2019s one of my favorite songs. John says it sounds as good as when \u2018Love\u2019 did it and he was in on that whole thing. I\u2019ve got to trust his judgement on that. so that\u2019s another one of my favorites. And Mark also sings several songs that are really good. One is just a really snotty song called <em>Big Fat Liar<\/em>\u00a0and it\u2019s something the Standells would have tackled back in the \u201860s.\u00a0 \u2018<em>He\u2019s a big fat liar\u2026<\/em>\u2019 and it\u2019s something we would have sang back then, just snotty and in-your-face. So that\u2019s another one of my favorites.<\/p>\n<p>I think we have a lot of good songs. It took us a year to make this album because we were also doing shows during this time. It\u2019s always hard to do shows and then come back in the studio and start fresh. We were writing songs during this time too and so that took up a lot of time. If there was any song we felt was weak, we wouldn\u2019t do it. We started off on a couple songs and they just weren\u2019t happening. One of them, I must say, was a song that I wrote. It just wasn\u2019t happening and there was no way that you could make it happen. Just like making a silk purse out of a sow\u2019s ear. You know, if it isn\u2019t there it\u2019s not there. We\u2019d just go on until we were totally, all of us, it just wasn\u2019t me, I did produce it and I also engineered it. It was all self-contained, we didn\u2019t bring in any outside people to do it. We did it ourselves and so we weren\u2019t about to let it go out unless we were totally happy with it, all of us. I think that\u2019s the sign of a good producer too, not somebody who goes in as a dictator, but someone who collaborates with the guys, gets ideas from them and then draws out the best type of performance out of it. There\u2019s a couple of songs that started out different, <em>Big Fat Liar<\/em>\u00a0was one of them. Mark wrote it along with one of the other guys and he kind of had a different idea. I was able to listen to it objectively and say, \u2018Wait a minute. why don\u2019t you try this on the melody and instead of starting out really low, start out high and rearrange this?\u2019. We did that with a couple of songs that they had written and they really came out great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you develop your \u2018sound\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s interesting that you should as me that. We built a special room for the guitar and because it\u2019s such a small studio we had to build a special \u2018closet\u2019 for the amp. There\u2019s a lot of experimentation until you start to hear something that really sounds cool in one song, that seems to lend itself in one song as opposed to another, mostly through experimentation. sometimes a song would call for almost a George Harrison type of lick and so that\u2019s what we would try to get. Fortunately, Mark\u2019s such a good guitarist that he can do any style of guitar at all real well.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-2102\" src=\"https:\/\/theboisebeat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Standells-on-stage-2-854x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"767\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Larry, do you have plenty of rock and roll in you?<\/strong> I\u2019m 71 hears old, I admit it!\u00a0 I try to stay as young as I can. I think that music keeps me young. so yeah, my phrase is, \u201cI be rockin\u2019 til I be droppin\u2019\u201d. That\u2019s kind of the way I feel, because as long as I\u2019m playing music, it\u2019s making me feel youthful, it\u2019s making me feel loved, it gives me a lot back. And I think it\u2019s a helluva lot better than sitting on my front porch slide rocker, slobbering and watching the cars going by! So I think I\u2019ve got many more concerts yet. When I make people happy, it makes me happy. On our tour, I get people coming up to me and telling me how much, not just <em>Dirty Water<\/em>, but songs like <em>Mister Nobody<\/em>\u2014-I had a guy that came up and gave us a huge tip. We never get tips! He gave us a huge tip in one of the clubs and he said, <em>Mr. Nobody<\/em>, his dad used to play it for him. And he said that his dad played it because\u00a0 \u2018I want you to be somebody and you are somebody\u2019. so this is to remind you that you are somebody. He said that he owes what he is today to that song and to hearing it and reminding himself who he is. Isn\u2019t that great?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thank you, Larry!<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Note: I&#8217;m republishing this interview I did in 2014 with Larry Tamblyn, one of the original founders of the Standells. John Fleck, one of the key members of the Standells for many years, has died of AML Leukemia this past October 18. 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